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Offline Lanny

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Re: Chasing the gold with Lanny
« Reply #80 on: May 17, 2019, 10:49:15 AM »
Hi.Lanny loving it.A couple more trips and she will have it down pat.But never ignore the bad signals.There is more than gold to found.One of the best signals I got with my garret AT was apiece of gum wrapper.My claim is loaded with iron rocks but this spot was just dirt.I had to dig 2 ft.to find it.And that still has me scratching my head.Last fall we buried a 5.7g nugget at about 6 inches in the same kind of dirt no rocks.The signal was so faint,I could not believe it.Do I chalk it up to a fualty tool or just a stupid operator?Me thinks the operator.Luck,Mcbain.

Mcbain, as always, thanks for your comments, and thanks for the advice about the bad signals as I've found some really bizarre things that way, and some downright interesting things as well.

When it comes to chasing aluminum foil, the decay rate of the signal is longer than gold, and that's why it always sounds so good, but never is.

I usually find that when the detector is acting strange, it's usually something to do with me as well . . .

All the best,

Lanny

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Re: Chasing the gold with Lanny
« Reply #81 on: May 17, 2019, 08:11:07 PM »
One thing I was told about detectors is they do not Lie.The signal readings can be wrong but the detector is picking up something and it does just not be what we want.I have watched many vids where a  dedector rights it off to a bottle cap and some one else that puts a little more work into digging gets a damn good find..Just saying Mcbain.
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Re: Chasing the gold with Lanny
« Reply #82 on: May 18, 2019, 02:48:20 PM »
One thing I was told about detectors is they do not Lie.The signal readings can be wrong but the detector is picking up something and it does just not be what we want.I have watched many vids where a  dedector rights it off to a bottle cap and some one else that puts a little more work into digging gets a damn good find..Just saying Mcbain.

You're sure on the money with your idea.

For instance, while nugget shooting I'll often get a reading that says iron as well as non-ferrous, and that's because of the ironstone that lays in the bedrock with the gold on top of it, beside it, underneath it, etc.  That's why I dig those questionable targets too.

All the best,

Lanny

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Re: Chasing the gold with Lanny
« Reply #83 on: May 26, 2019, 11:29:17 PM »
Hydraulic Pit Gold

(I wrote this story a long time ago, but for the rookies, there might be a tip or two . . . )

I was detecting in a hydraulic pit one day, way back when I was using the Minelab 2100 full-time (still a solid gold-finding machine!).

I was finding little brass boot nails, copper wire, blasting caps, old square nails (of all sizes), mine tunnel rail spikes, dozer-blade shavings, cigarette package foil, bits of old tin can (AKA, can-slaw) . . . I was hitting everything but gold!

I wandered over to a rise on the side of the pit where there were some white-barked quaking aspens. It was a sizzling summer day with the patented cobalt blue sky of the Rockies, and that shade in the aspens looked mighty inviting.

From upslope, a cool breeze brought the fragrant scent of fresh, mountain pine.

Having been given the perfect recipe for some relaxation, I sat down and pondered what I'd been up to. The pit was huge, and I'd been hammering the exposed bedrock, and any places where there was any clay deposited tight on the bedrock. (I guess it was good that I'd been finding the junk, as it proved the area wasn't totally hunted out, but I wanted some gold, and I was tired of hitting only junk.)

As I sat in the shade and took a break, I suddenly noticed lots of river rock around the base of the trees, a thing I'd failed to notice before. I looked at the rise above the aspens,  and I saw where river rocks were poking from the slope as well. Freshly inspired, I took my shovel and peeled off the surface material to expose even more water-rounded rock.

I fired up the detector and passed it over the rocks and worked my way along the edge of the rise. To my amazement, I got a signal! Of course, I automatically assumed it was another nail, as most of that hydraulic pit could have been refiled on a claim map as a nail mine!

(To elaborate a bit about old nails, I've been fooled by the small tips of square nails before, sometimes they sound just like a nugget. )

Anyway, I dug down and cleared away some of that river rock. The dirt looked like original deposit, undisturbed virgin ground. Furthermore,  as I looked at the rise, it made sense. Where I was digging was obviously a small hump of intact old channel, a piece left by the hydraulic miners.  The only clue as to why it had been left was that perhaps due to all of the nails at the base of the hump, there must have been some sort of building there that they didn't want to take out with the water cannons.

At any rate, I kept digging, and the signal got stronger. Pretty soon, about eight inches down, I saw bedrock. I passed the coil over the spot and the sound was nice and sweet.

This was shale bedrock, with lots of fractures packed with clay, and lots of small river stones tight on as well as jammed down into it. I pinpointed the signal and carefully scraped down through the clay and small stones. There on the bedrock was a sassy nugget! It was very flat, but shaped just  like the sole of a shoe, about the size of a Barbie Doll boot, only thicker, and somewhat larger.

Naturally, I decided to detect the area more, but I got blanked.

But then came the thing that can stop a nugget hunter cold, the battle over whether to strip more overburden to expose the bedrock. (Was this a lone nugget, or could there be some pals somewhere?)

I've faced this decision many times while throwing off hundreds of pounds of annoying rock, only to find nothing. But, the place had a good feel to it, plus the shade was a nice bonus, so I decided to tear into it.

(As a side note, my buddy invented a slick rock fork that I had with me that day. He took a manure-fork and heated the tines and bent them about halfway down their length at a right angle. Then he cut the sharp tips off, leaving safe, blunt ends. This is a dream tool for raking off river rock from hillsides and bedrock, the long handle making the work easier. Plus, any heavies like gold will fall through the tines and stay put.)

Using the repurposed fork, I found that the overburden varied from about six inches to a foot, and the rocks varied from cobbles to watermelon-sized boulders.

At last I'd cleared an area about the size of two half-ton truck beds. It took a lot of work, but I'd produced a nice patch of exposed bedrock that had the same covering of clay and small river stone as the previous spot that had given up a nugget.

I ran the coil over the area and got no signal at all! I slowed down and ran it perpendicular to the way I'd detected it the first time. This time I got a whisper. I hauled out some sniping tools, went to work, and the signal was slightly louder.

I used a stiff-bristled brush and scrubbed the bedrock. I detected the spot again, and the signal was nice and repeatable. I got out a bent, slot screwdriver (end bent at 90 degrees), and I worked that bedrock hard. It started to break off in flakes, and small sheets,  and my efforts exposed a crevice! I dug down deeper and the crevice got a bit wider, then little stones packed in a wet, dark-stained sandy clay started popping out; this can be a very good sign, even with a crevice being narrow.

I ran the edge of the coil along the crevice and the sound was definitely crisper. I took out a small sledge from my pack and a wide, thin rock chisel. I cut down on either side of the signal in that bedrock crevice, then I slanted back toward the heart of the crevice itself, breaking out the rock and exposing the contents of the little pocket. I scraped all of the material out of the crevice and put it in a plastic scoop. I ran it under the coil and was rewarded with a nice smooth, crisp sound.

I sorted the scoop's material under the coil to reveal a flat nugget, its body still wedged in between two pieces of bedrock. Moreover, because that little rascal had been standing on its edge, that was why it had been so stealthy in the crevice!

I cleaned along the rest of the crevice and found two more nuggets, smaller than the first and second nuggets, but nice to have nonetheless.

I went back to the same spot a couple of weeks later and really cleared off a large section of that hump. You'd have been proud to see the rocks fly that day; nonetheless, I found no more gold.

Isn't that the way it goes?

All the best,

Lanny

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Re: Chasing the gold with Lanny
« Reply #84 on: May 28, 2019, 08:25:21 AM »
I am still scratching my head trying to picture the nugget that was slightly larger than a "barbie doll boot", and I have a young daughter.  LOL  Great story.   I felt like I was standing beside you while you were detecting. 
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Re: Chasing the gold with Lanny
« Reply #85 on: May 28, 2019, 08:05:49 PM »
Hmmmm.The Barbie was pretty small.Still a damn good nugget.I am guessing close to 2 g :). been fourty years since I seen barbie.Luck,Mcbain.
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Re: Chasing the gold with Lanny
« Reply #86 on: May 29, 2019, 11:23:14 AM »
HMmm - my ex was named Barbara.  She had regular sized feet.  One heck of a big nugget.   <-hypnotized->
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Re: Chasing the gold with Lanny
« Reply #87 on: May 29, 2019, 01:57:46 PM »
I am still scratching my head trying to picture the nugget that was slightly larger than a "barbie doll boot", and I have a young daughter.  LOL  Great story.   I felt like I was standing beside you while you were detecting.

It was the only size comparison I could come up with at the time, and it had thickness too which made it even better. (Maybe Barbie wasn't such a good idea . . ., but a better comparison than comparing it to the foot of a snail.  ;)

All the best,

Lanny

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Re: Chasing the gold with Lanny
« Reply #88 on: May 29, 2019, 01:59:26 PM »
Hmmmm.The Barbie was pretty small.Still a damn good nugget.I am guessing close to 2 g :). been fourty years since I seen barbie.Luck,Mcbain.

Looks like I've opened the Barbie floodgates, and yes that is close to what the nugget weighed, good guess.

All the best, and it's been a long time since I've seen Barbie too (maybe she's my good luck charm?),

Lanny

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Re: Chasing the gold with Lanny
« Reply #89 on: May 29, 2019, 02:00:31 PM »
HMmm - my ex was named Barbara.  She had regular sized feet.  One heck of a big nugget.   <-hypnotized->

Send her over, and I'll measure her feet, and we'll see how close the match is . . .  <-thinking->

All the best,

Lanny

 


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