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Title: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: caauug on March 21, 2007, 04:02:03 AM
G`Day, I it good to see Canucks with there own forum. I am Located in Kalgoolrlie W.A. Australia and mainly read the Finders Forum as it relates to my area. Whether it be good or bad I do work for Barrick, a Canadian company and they do here give permission to prospect on there leases. I know there might not be much I can do from down here but I am willing to try to help out who ever I can if they do not do the same there.

It it great to see you all and all the best to working togeather for the common good.
Title: Re: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: GPEX admin on March 21, 2007, 10:03:47 AM
Hello caauug, and a warm welcome !

Nice to see folks from all around the world meld as one in our common cause.  I'm sure you have much you could share that would be helpful to so many, and we look forward to your active participation in not only helping to build this forum into a haven most any miner would wish to kick off his boots and relax to, but also your sharing of the little things the newcomer would find interesting and intriguing.

You work for Barrick, interesting, is that in regard to placer or hardrock?  And how are things fairing out ?  And are there any new equipment horizons about to merge out of Australia ?  A lot of folks down there are quite creative.

If you have any photos you'd like to share, please feel to post.

Hope you enjoy our content.  We'll swap words again, I know.

Larry
Title: Re: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: caauug on March 21, 2007, 01:16:12 PM
Larry, I work at a small mine called Bullant. It is hardrock as it is underground but marginal at best as our grade is low. It was started by Aurion Gold we were bought by Placer Dome and then by Barrick. Barrick has a lot of leases here in the Kalgoorlie region and with your sighning of there agreement you are free to detect anywhere they are not working. Nuggets can still be found with a little work but the leases have there fair share of junk as the old timmers were not known for picking up the rubbish.

I am not sure what you mean about equipment horizons. The only new piece of equipment I know of slowly coming is a Cat jumbo drill getting close to the test stages. I do not think that is what you want.

I dug the camera out of a box a few days ago, it needs a new battery and up dated software on the pc but I will see if it still works first before I start downloading. Any pics I had went with the old pc when the hard drive died.
Title: Re: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: shiver on March 21, 2007, 02:27:04 PM
Welcome to the forum caauug!!  I'll be sure to keep an eye out for posts  or hopefully pics of your finds and experiences with and without Barrick.

shiver
Title: Re: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: caauug on April 29, 2007, 08:09:40 PM
I am trying to post a pic so I hope this works. I got my camera working and did a few shots at work, it was just an experiment. The first one is of the new trucks or one of them. They are Cat AD55 for underground use. The do not look so new anymore as we have had a lot of new starters and there is not that much room down there. The mine was designed for Toro (Tamrock)40D`s and the Cats are larger.
Title: Re: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: caauug on April 29, 2007, 08:39:04 PM
Looks like that one worked. This one is of the front of the workshop. The loader in the forground is an Elphinstone R2800, an old girl but still works good. The loader in the background is an Elphinstone R1700 II, it is fresh out of the stope as it was traped down there for nearly 3 weeks as it was in a rock fall. There are 2 of them on remotes so we do have a back-up when things like that happen or there is a major repair. The stopes are 18m or so vertical from drive to drive. I know some of the mining terms are differant than you might use so feel free to ask questions. You will notice the front of the workshop has no doors as it does not get cold enough down here, maybe 3 or 4 good hits of frost in the mornings all winter. At this point in time all the loaders and trucks come to the surface once a day to get fuel and serviced, we do not have an underground workshop.
Title: Re: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: bcdigger on May 01, 2007, 12:34:17 AM
Great Pics Caauug!!

Seems to me I could use a few of those machine's :D...and I guess a Gold mine wouldn't hurt either  ;)

How much material do you fella's move in an average day?
Is the ore treated on site?


Looks like an interesting occupation. Thanks for sharing

Digger
Title: Re: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: caauug on May 26, 2007, 03:26:27 AM
BCdigger, on a good day 10 loads per tuck at about 45 tonnes a truck in a 12hr. shift. Not every day is a good day and I will say that would be a max. I should check and average for a few months but that is not really my end. The ore gets loaded from the "ROM" pad that is at the top of the pit and gets trucked via roadtrains to the mill, so no it is not treated on site. At this time it is treated at Paddington but will be sent to Kawona Bell after the devesment of Paddington takes place. That is likely too much information unless you are following Barrick down here. I will try and get a few pics of the road trains they use as they can be 4 trailers long.

It is a very interesting job, I am in the maintenance end and have worked at this mine for nearly 5 years. We look after another small project that is closing down, they are taking out the crown pillars now. This will be the third small project since Bullant started in mid 2002 that we have also covered. I find I am still learning lots every day as mining methods change and the equipment is changing allso.

If you are looking to buy a gold mine there are a few up for sale here, I can put in a good word for you.
Title: Re: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: bushguy on May 26, 2007, 08:20:35 PM
 :) Welcome to the Forum there Caauug! I'm new here too but love Gold! ;D Tell me, do you do any surface prospecting around there? I've heard there's lots of gold there and it's being found, very often with metal detectors. Is that true for the area you are in or have you checked yet?

I think you're going to like this board friend, I know I sure do! {cool^sign}

BG
Title: Re: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: caauug on May 26, 2007, 10:24:21 PM
Bushguy, there is a lot of people useing metal detectors, myself for one. I will admitt the cream is gone and now you have to work for most you get. There are still some full time prospectors that only use detectors but most full timers use dozers or loaders. There is a lot of old workings around Kalgoorlie and the ground is heavy in rusty metal around these areas, that is why loaders etc. will get you more. There are some dry blowers, from shovel up to loader feed working in the area also.

Myself I use a minelab 2200 with a few up-grades. I am partners with a couple of other blokes and in the past we have done really well, but we are in a dry spell at the presant. The next big cash in I will likely up grade to a 3500 or 4000, but that might be a while yet.

I am experimenting on building a magnetic rake, I am changing the design a little so yes I have had it out and it did pick up some rust but not enough. Most people with detectors stay away from old workings as it gets frustrating digging crap all the time, but the old timers found gold there so it is a good place to look. I just have to solve the problem of the rust. The rake will also pick up the ironstone that is covering the ground in most of the gold bearing areas.
Title: Re: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: ClickTheYellowChick on May 28, 2007, 10:32:24 AM
....That is likely too much information unless you are following Barrick down here. I will try and get a few pics of the road trains they use as they can be 4 trailers long.

It is a very interesting job, I am in the maintenance end and have worked at this mine for nearly 5 years. We look after another small project that is closing down, they are taking out the crown pillars now. This will be the third small project since Bullant started in mid 2002 that we have also covered. I find I am still learning lots every day as mining methods change and the equipment is changing allso.

Speaking of equipment...I loved that photo you shared of the CATAD55 I think you called it.  Thanks.

Being in maintenance and all, may I ask a couple questions about the Catalytic converter on that puppy?

1) Is it one that you can remove, recharge, and re-install, or do you have a set hours of use, pull it and pitch it policy for them?

2) What year is that hauler CAT itself?

3)  What is the CID of that diesel engine on that CAT?

4) How often do you have to replace one of those C/Cs?

5) Do you maintenance guys have anyone who takes them home and gets the PGMs out of it, or buys them from you for that purpose?

6) What is cost to replace one of those CCs?

7) If a recycler buys them from you as scrap, what is the going "buy price" nowadays?

PS...I realize you will be talking Aussie Bucks with me should you have a minute to answer those 7 Qs.
I'll convert into US buckos and Canadian buckos for the forums benefit, so don't worry about that part.

It is SOOOOO cool a Barrick man on the ground popped in here on this neat forum
You are about as close as I'll ever get to Australia, let alone to a Barrick mining op! 

Thanks for your patience and I hope I didn't ask too many questions for my first exchange with you.
Title: Re: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: caauug on May 28, 2007, 07:30:12 PM
CTYC, I will try my best to answer your questions.

We have 2 Cat AD55`s, one came on site at the end of last year and the other in Janurary. When they came out of the factory it would have been a very short time before they came on site as they are all preordered for the next 2 or more years, so they would be last years model.

http://www.cat.com/cda/layout?m=37840&x=7

Copy and paste that link if it does not highlight. You can see all the factory specks on the truck there, engine included.

Now the Catalytic Converter. It will be a honeycomb type all of them are on under ground gear here and everything diesel under ground has them except Utes (pick-ups). Gasoline is band on minesites. LPG (propane) is only for the barbbie (BBQ).

We do not replace them, the only time we would if they get damaged and then we would have a good try at fixing it. They can get plugged up if there is a malfuction in the engine, injector, turbo or aftercooler failure. For that we take them off and wash them with a pressure washer.

There might be a replacement one on the R2800 (front end in the other pic), it was before my time. That LHD was repowered with a 60 series Detroit 12L as the old Cat mechanical engine was getting really tired and the electronic injected engines run cleaner.

Home? To bring something home without a letter from way up the food chain would mean you will never work in the mines again and most of the places in town. Letters are hard to get, next to impossible now that we are Barrick.

Scrap dealers can come to site but not often as we are not in the scrap buisness, for clean up when a project ends you can count on it as there will be steel and copper wire for them. Recycling here is way behined North America. Location has a lot to do with that, that is also why scrap is worth a lot less here.

Being Barrick is not special here as at this time we are the largest lease holder in the area and likely the largest employer if you count the Joint Ventures like KCGM with us.

I hope I answered your questions, if not:
1)yes, ?, yes, no, no
2)2006
3)1106.44 CID
4)When it is non repairable.
5)no
6)unknown
7)Depends on how much other stuff goes whith it, not my department to know and I would not be there it find out.

There you have nothing to convert your job is made easy. Keep asking them and I will try to answer. :)
Title: Re: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: bcdigger on May 28, 2007, 11:11:46 PM
Interesting concept with the magnet rake. Please do keep us posted on your progress Caauug {cool^sign}

BCD
Title: Re: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: caauug on May 29, 2007, 03:40:57 AM
BCD, this should really be under another topic... who do you blame for that? ME!
I was going to go out today but.... Nature said no. So maybe tomorrow with any luck.

I hate to take away from this board but if you read my first post on this thread you will see were I came from...so to speek. I try to tread lightly as some boards kick you off for the smallest thing, no I have not be banished anywhere yet. The thread that started me thinking is here:

http://www.finders.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2271&highlight=manetic+rake

One of my co-workers talked about it at the same time as this came out, so eather one could have been the icing on the cake to get me to do it. I will, under respect, post on Finders first just after I tell my co-worker how it went. Yes I will post here also but I will start a new thread as I feel there are too many topics going at once, not that I mind really but...
I will post pics here when I get it the best I can.
Title: Re: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: caauug on June 07, 2007, 04:20:33 AM
I was out today but did not have much luck but I did get a few Pics. This one is of some old workings, a mined out stope.
Title: Re: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: caauug on June 07, 2007, 04:28:01 AM
If a mining company has enough leases in one area it worth there time to buy or rent the pastural lease (there can be more than one type of lease on the same piece of land). The area here is also used for graizing sheep or cattle.
Title: Re: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: sincerely on June 08, 2007, 10:52:42 PM
Just curious to know how a person without mining experience can possibly make a proper decision about patented mining claims
in a strategic location that are boxed in by the  biggest mining venture.  Anyone with advice?
Title: Re: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: GPEX admin on June 19, 2007, 11:14:36 PM
Hi Sincerely...
The big mining boys don't really have you boxed in, they're just snuggling up close to you likely for what lies on your property.  If you've got it and they don't, that makes "you" the big mining company.  You just don't have dozers and stuff like that yet. Just go about doing your own thing, and if you get approached to see if you'd sell, you'll then know just how big of claim you do have.  With the Big Brother presence, your ancestory evidentally knew what they were doing.
Title: Re: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: GPEX admin on June 19, 2007, 11:26:25 PM
caaug....
............have a question for you Sir.  I've always wondered about this.  You live on a big island, but compared to the world, it's more small than big.  And you're way out in the ocean, with no help from continents at all.  Well.... without big mountanous landscapes and all other sources of feed like we have up where I live..... where did all the "big" nuggets come from in your part of the world ?  Were you at one time attached to North America where a glacier dropped all the good stuff on you, then your forefathers said bye bye and instituted the continental divide ?  Or does your volcanos (if you have such) spew out humungous gold globlets every now and again.  You boys sure do pick up some big ones.

Larry
Title: Re: G`Day from Down Under
Post by: caauug on June 26, 2007, 02:17:46 PM
Larry, sorry for the long delay on getting back to you. I have seen this information somewhere else but I can not find it again, so I will have give you this link.

http://groups.msn.com/GoldDetecting/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=31296&LastModified=4675627292445789794

Go down to the post by "Gypsy". I think this will answer some of your questions. It is the best way of describing why the nuggets are there or not there in this area. The key is saline groundwater.

My appologies for linking to another forum once again, and thanks goes to Gypsy for the information.