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Title: Making a living hand mining
Post by: fredrick on March 24, 2019, 06:30:47 AM
So I decided to quit my job to mine. I will be hand mining only. I figured I can make a couple hundred a day. I saw Dan Hurds video and he gets a gram an hour just panning and thats $50 an hour from the Fraser. I have a claim on the Fraser Im headed out next week to go mine. Any suggestions from anyone that will help ke is greatly appreciated. Thanks
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: Top Cat on March 24, 2019, 07:15:07 AM
fredrick,
Don't believe everything you see in a video.  for the kind of money you are talking about making from the Fraser, you will be lucky to get enough to pay for your gas to either get to the claim or run a high banker. Not to mention your meals.

Seems to me the "Fever " has hit you and you have not taken time to think things out before leaping.

Don't quit your job, work the claim to death on your days off and see what it produces. I think "reality" will then kick in.

In any event Good Luck on what ever you decide.
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: garth64 on March 24, 2019, 07:15:44 AM
Call your boss back  :'(
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: jobinyt on March 24, 2019, 07:20:32 AM
I hope your post is meant as Sunday morning humor. If not, I'm wondering if you're counting all of Dan's exploring, shoveling, classifying, and sluicing time to get to the concentrates that you think on average yield a gram per hour? Maybe before you run off and do this you might want to calculate how many tons of material you expect to move to get a gram of gold. Then try it just 1 weekend to prove your plan before you quit that your job.

 [email protected]*  <-hypnotized-> But if you're gonna do it - go big. Perhaps you could hire, say, a dozen, high school kids at $20 per hour - downgrade your expectation about 20%  just because, and you'll be making, ah, let's see 20 x 12 = $240 per hour! Maybe more!. Then maybe get those Gold Rush show people to put you TV for another bunch of money.

Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: fredrick on March 24, 2019, 07:22:36 AM
Thanks Garth. I dont expect to get rich but should be able to get by. I didnt like my job anyways and can always get another one if things dont pan out. I have been thinking about this for a long time just didnt have the right claim. Ive been out there a couple times and there is good gold. There are a few videos out of Dan doing calculations of getting gold and it looks like you could easily get by. A gram an hour panning is good. Imagine running highbanker. He did a video on thst too and can get an oz every 5 days. Thats more then I make now. I understand Dan is one of the better prospectors in the world but if I could get half that I would be happy and could make a go at it.
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: Davidloc on March 24, 2019, 07:46:56 AM
Dan has some of my favorite vids on YouTube but you should have a look at a vlogger on YouTube called Two Toes. He covers a lot of the dud days that you may encounter as well.
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: upnorth on March 24, 2019, 07:49:49 AM
It sounds like your mind is made up. Good luck ! Take lotsa video and post them. You can probably get lotsa help if you want it...I would like to join but I'm working in Yukon. Maybe Dan could secretly drop some nuggets in your sluice to share his fortune he makes from reselling claims and YouTube posts. :-)
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: fredrick on March 24, 2019, 08:11:25 AM
I will be making videos of the trip. I dont have service out there so probably just wiat till fall and when the season is over to make my series. I know it will be hard and wont make alotnof money but its the experience and not working a 9-5. Even if I get a few grams a day I will be happy, my expenses will be minimum. And i think that should be easy to get a few grams a day from Fraser.
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: garth64 on March 24, 2019, 08:25:09 AM
Go slow and steady half shovel  scoopes , save your back, im one step up  of hand mining this year , im hoping for 2 yards an hour. your welcome to come visit.
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: fredrick on March 24, 2019, 08:29:05 AM
Go slow and steady half shovel  scoopes , save your back, im one step up  of hand mining this year , im hoping for 2 yards an hour. your
welcome to come visit.

Thank you for the offer and would like to see your operation. Are you hand digging? 2 yards an hour hand digging? How much gold a day are you getting? Do you mine full time? My only worry is the fraser is going to flood during summer so I am looking for another claim but dont want to give my money to a flipper and I cant stake claims I always get beat by them.
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: garth64 on March 24, 2019, 10:59:26 AM
mini hoe from princess auto and a powered wheel barrow into wash box I have permit in place, pm me if you like, I have an area of interest.
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: DirtHogg on March 24, 2019, 12:14:15 PM
I for one commend you on your courage to do a kind of adventure like this.I just hope you have some money put aside for food ect.Because you are in for some heartache.But this i hope is just you and your not dragging any dependents down this road.I would hate to see a wife or kids attempt to live off handmining anywhere.For a summer adventure i can see nothing better than this for a young strong guy.I wish you all the luck in the world!!!
DirtHogg
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: JOE S (INDY) on March 24, 2019, 02:55:16 PM
So, here's a word or two from 'ole Joe:

"Never Risk What You Can't Afford to Loose."  Sweet and to the point.

Many of us have fancifully considered what you are hoping to do - but you are, it seems, relying on others to blaze the way for your direction. 

It could be a better idea to do what Top Cat suggested - start slow to learn exactly what you really are attempting before going whale fishing. 

Just remember that if it was as simple as some think, we'd be hip deep in rich mining companies.

'ole Joe
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: kodibear on March 24, 2019, 06:23:01 PM
I have watched most of Dans videos & I was pretty impressed with how much gold he was getting from the Fraser until I watched the one where he showed his entire take for 10 yrs (7.5 ozs ) & then I realized that most of what he does is to promote the claims he has for sale. I once found over 14 ozs in 3 mths working 20 hrs a week but mostly I find a lot less. The big difference between you & me is that I have 40 yrs of experience to rely on. When I first started out I barely made gas money, having said that I wish you all the luck in the world having been there &  done that. I never got rich but I never starved & if I had it to do over, I wouldn't change a thing.
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: mcbain on March 24, 2019, 07:29:35 PM
Hi.Fredrick I wish you luck.You must have a  amazing claim.All the above posters would love to have a claim they could make a living from.If you can work non stop 10 hrs a day,you may make welfare for the few months you can work.Now if your job pays less than welfare You may do O.K. 2-3g aday sounds o.k. but you got to give up 30% to the gold buyer and the tax man.Even Dan would shake his head.If you could do a ounze a day,Well maybe I would quit my job to.Just saying,Luck Mcbain.
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: suburbanator on March 25, 2019, 06:52:16 AM
A gram an hour panning is good.

I can get a Gram an hour HIGH BANKING on several of my Fraser claims,  sadly I'd say that its impossible to maintain that pace,  but panning? That would be tough IMO.

If you need any help let me know,  your welcome to try one of my claims before you set out.
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: goldseeker1 on March 25, 2019, 08:59:19 AM
suburbanator... can you give us  a title number of 1 of your cells so we can see where you are at on the fraser...if not asking 2 much...ken
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: Youtuber Dan on March 25, 2019, 10:16:06 AM
There are FAR more <.25g days than there are >1g days. However my YouTube viewers have spoken VERY loudly that they don't like watching the "dud" days. So I usually make the videos the viewers want. I could never make a living panning or highbanking. Even those videos I did on a VERY good claim I was clear I could not keep up that pace for more than an hour. I have got 1 ounce in a day Twice in my ten years. And both those time there were 3 of us reading the high banker. So really only 1/3 of an ounce. And those were very special spots.
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: JOE S (INDY) on March 25, 2019, 10:34:14 AM
I think Dan meant to say

"... feeding the high banker".   <~ShOcK~>

He gets Sooooo excited sometimes  <-hypnotized->
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: garth64 on March 25, 2019, 11:04:24 AM
For sum of us that don't know, the new phones will auto correct. I my self will be happy with 1/8 ounce a day thrilled with 1/4 ounce a day with my little operation , Im getting to old to shovel, im one step above hand work.
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: upnorth on March 25, 2019, 11:48:49 AM
Dan said."There are FAR more <.25g days than there are >1g days. However my YouTube viewers have spoken VERY loudly that they don't like watching the "dud" days. So I usually make the videos the viewers want.".
Aww Dan I was going to retire early so I could grab some of that gold, before it's gone   :-(.  I can't type anymore my eyes are watering up
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: PhilipGold on March 25, 2019, 03:35:58 PM
beans_n_bacon_pan.jpg
There is a great paragraph about a miner owning dog food but not a dog.
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: suburbanator on March 25, 2019, 06:18:35 PM
suburbanator... can you give us  a title number of 1 of your cells so we can see where you are at on the fraser...if not asking 2 much...ken

Naaaaa....all my friends know where to find me. ...   but your welcome to PM me to discuss.


Sunday was 2.5 hour drive to an area near Falls Creek then 20 min hike/climb ,  1 hour test panning approximately 14 locations,  45 mins prepping area for highbanker work (removing large rocks etc) and then 41 mins of multiple people feeding the highbanker which we only stopped because  we were a  teaching/helping a relatively new prospector and had limited time. Concluded by a 2.5 hour drive back.

Net was 0.61grams..... so you can look at as .61grams per 41 mins of highbanking or .61 grams for a  9  hour day!!  You can spin the math however you want.  We were also obviously on a pretty good spot,  and likely one that is only available for a few weeks of low water.

The work is absolutely back breaking,   guys like Knucklebuster for example can really work a shovel and I have seen a few other guys at McBains place that can really dig,  but for most people  a couple hours max of "hard" digging....   



Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: mcbain on March 25, 2019, 08:08:39 PM
Hi.GuysI gave Dan A kudo for his reply.Some may Disagree but I watch all his vids and keep my eyes and ears open.I agree with his post on this topic.The average person watching all the gold shows only see and hear what they want to.They tune every thing else out.The amount of folks wanting to come to Canada astounds me.they honestly believe every thing they see.But theyb only see what they want to .They do not see the bad days on discovery or the millions tied up in eqipment and the chance of going broke in a heart beat.No they only see what they want to.How many folks buy a claim off Kijji going to the youkon to get rich and are never heard of again.Why because they can not get a fmc or citizenship( that is in BC)but you all get my point.The Yukon  has rules too.Just ranting.Luck,Mcbain.
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: Suave on March 26, 2019, 07:32:56 AM
There are FAR more <.25g days than there are >1g days. However my YouTube viewers have spoken VERY loudly that they don't like watching the "dud" days. So I usually make the videos the viewers want. I could never make a living panning or highbanking. Even those videos I did on a VERY good claim I was clear I could not keep up that pace for more than an hour. I have got 1 ounce in a day Twice in my ten years. And both those time there were 3 of us reading the high banker. So really only 1/3 of an ounce. And those were very special spots.

I second that. Although I think you have me beat Dan. I have never pulled out an ounce in a day in over 40 years of prospecting. Lots of .25g days and occasional 1 gram plus days. Multi-gram days are usually in low water sniping bedrock.

Regards.

Keep On Diggin'_Suave
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: rev red wolf on March 28, 2019, 10:30:17 PM
I had the same idea back in 2010 when I moved to CO the first time. 5 years in Northern CO, then I traveled around the country for awhile. Last May made the move back to South Central CO. Research online and in the desert Mountains since then. Lots of indicator minerals and a good opportunity to file claims. WORKING claims. Others have mined this area before and the very patient Chinese workers followed. Long time ago and many storms and floods since have left lots of bedrock exposed and many places been to have red, white (quartz) and blue bands, not little. Been doing my homework every day. Lots of fine gold and am in a Turquoise area. Snows about gone and I'm ready to go to work. It is worth the work and I love the Mountain desert
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: sunshine on March 29, 2019, 12:15:20 PM
If you are young and have no other obligations, then do it.  Many of use wish we had.  You probably won't get rich and will most likely get spanked by the experience.  On the other hand, it will be something spectacular to remember.  Good luck and stay safe. 
Title: Re: Making a living hand mining
Post by: Lanny on March 29, 2019, 09:37:03 PM
suburbanator... can you give us  a title number of 1 of your cells so we can see where you are at on the fraser...if not asking 2 much...ken

Naaaaa....all my friends know where to find me. ...   but your welcome to PM me to discuss.


Sunday was 2.5 hour drive to an area near Falls Creek then 20 min hike/climb ,  1 hour test panning approximately 14 locations,  45 mins prepping area for highbanker work (removing large rocks etc) and then 41 mins of multiple people feeding the highbanker which we only stopped because  we were a  teaching/helping a relatively new prospector and had limited time. Concluded by a 2.5 hour drive back.

Net was 0.61grams..... so you can look at as .61grams per 41 mins of highbanking or .61 grams for a  9  hour day!!  You can spin the math however you want.  We were also obviously on a pretty good spot,  and likely one that is only available for a few weeks of low water.

The work is absolutely back breaking,   guys like Knucklebuster for example can really work a shovel and I have seen a few other guys at McBains place that can really dig,  but for most people  a couple hours max of "hard" digging....

What a great thing to do, to help out a rookie!

I have so much fun working with rookies as I love to watch them light-up when they get some gold, nothing like it.

As well, it reminds me of the Sour-Doughs that took pity on me as a rookie, to get me started the right way.

So, I think it was great what you did.

I'll add something else: whenever I come across someone else chasing the gold (rookies or seasoned pros), it instantly creates a common bond due to the shared common interest. (In all the years I've met other prospectors, there's only been a few bad apples  as the vast majority have been great people.

All the best,

Lanny