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Title: New core drill from stihl
Post by: Norbert77 on February 04, 2019, 02:28:06 PM
Just saw the ad, didnt see the product in person yet but it is about 1200 bucks ready to drill. Looks lightweight

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Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: mcbain on February 04, 2019, 07:56:05 PM
Hi.Norbert.I hate to burst your bubble.But these are not what you are looking for.Reason I know is because i sell them.I am a stihl master tech and work on these things daily.The BT 45 is the cheapest weed wacker motor.It will drill a hole threw a 12x12 timber. but thats about it.The BT 131 is a better  more  commercial engine but is still only designed to drill fence post holes.Way to small for what you need.Example is the engine is the same one used on larger weed wackers.It does have a great gear reduction box but try any thing more than a 5ft. hole something is going to break and you are out 1200.00.Just saying.Luck,Mcbain.
Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: Norbert77 on February 05, 2019, 04:04:29 PM
Yeah, I knew it was too good to be true. The Shaw backpack has a 27cc 2 stroke, what are these?
Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: Hardpan82 on February 05, 2019, 05:50:47 PM
There's no way to get around using the proper tools for the job. You are only going to end up wasting more money and time only to get frusterated.  The Shaw drill isn't a proper tool either. Its a cool idea but in a real working environment it doesnt hold up. Gold propsecting isn't a cheap endeavor by any means and there really isnt anyway around it. There is a reason why people want to option their properties out, because it's always better to let someone else to pay for exploration. That being said without good results no one will even consider optioning any property.
Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: mcbain on February 05, 2019, 06:18:45 PM
Hi.Norbett the stihl is in the 30 cc class but lets face facts.You are talking 20 feet.You can not do it with a hand held drill.Now here is something different to research.They do make drills that will run off your excavator hydrualics.simply remove your bucket and attach the drill rig.You would not want to buy one but renting is always a option.just a thought.Luck,Mcbain.
Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: Norbert77 on February 06, 2019, 02:27:57 AM
So what do you need to drill 30 foot overburden and 10 foot of samples below?
Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: Hardpan82 on February 06, 2019, 07:55:11 AM
So what do you need to drill 30 foot overburden and 10 foot of samples below?
Have you taken any soil samples and sent them for assays?  Any geochemistry work? There are alot of things you can and should do before you just start drilling. Rather then drilling first why don't you use what you have to get the most information you can without spending a ton of money. Usually people only drill when they have a reason to drill. Make a grid. Use your excavator and dig some holes and take samples from the holes. Send the samples in for assays to see if there are any anomalies in the soil. This will give you an idea if there is something there to focus on and to take the next steps. You can't just start drilling holes hoping to hit something, it's a sure fire way to go broke fast.
Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: Norbert77 on February 06, 2019, 10:51:30 AM
If my excavator didnt play submarine, I wouldn't need a drill
Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: upnorth on February 07, 2019, 04:23:39 AM
"I need test holes to sell my claims" not too many miners believe drill reports. If anything, they will do their own testing before money changes hands. But Drill reports could prove  that there's a buried channel in the underneath.
Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: oilfieldsafety on February 07, 2019, 09:00:34 AM
I used to work on core drills in the Yukon and Northern BC as well as drills on seismic projects, right now it is pretty dead out there work wise so there may be another option to consider. For a percentage or a small piece of the pie so to speak you might be able to get an owner/operator to do a fair chunk of drilling for you.

Just a thought, cheers.
Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: Norbert77 on February 07, 2019, 01:56:08 PM
I used to work on core drills in the Yukon and Northern BC as well as drills on seismic projects, right now it is pretty dead out there work wise so there may be another option to consider. For a percentage or a small piece of the pie so to speak you might be able to get an owner/operator to do a fair chunk of drilling for you.

Just a thought, cheers.

Thanks, I'll  tryinryg every angle I can think of.
Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: mcbain on February 07, 2019, 08:34:45 PM
Hi.From the pics of your excavator sinking.If that is what you want to drill forget it.You are talking 70% soup.You can not core /auger drill with anything in that crap.You need to drain your swamp or pump it out or simply sink a few cases of powder and blow out a pit.The water will drain back in but you can pump it out.There is no simple cheap way of dealing with swamps.Some times you just have to face the facts.Moose pasture is exactly that.Last I got to say on the topic.Luck Mcbain.
Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: ykplacer on February 07, 2019, 09:39:38 PM
Either wait to drill until it 's frozen solid...that will help prevent swamping your equipment..,.

or

buy yourself a  directional drill
Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: ykplacer on February 07, 2019, 11:04:11 PM
Norbert77...if budget is an issue. and dollars are tight....old gear around ....

Example ...this is not the prettiest gal on the block..and it runs ..
Sitting in Ontario...for$3000 ..maybe less?....You might be able to  turn it into something that works for you....


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Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: ykplacer on February 07, 2019, 11:10:41 PM
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Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: Norbert77 on February 08, 2019, 04:12:27 AM
Norbert77...if budget is an issue. and dollars are tight....old gear around ....

Example ...this is not the prettiest gal on the block..and it runs ..
Sitting in Ontario...for$3000 ..maybe less?....You might be able to  turn it into something that works for you....


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That machine is great, thanks for the heads up, you're on my best friend list
Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: upnorth on February 08, 2019, 04:50:26 AM
A friend of mine owned one of these. He said it paid for itself in 3 years. https://hydracore.com/prospector-usf-020/
Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: Norbert77 on February 08, 2019, 06:21:01 AM
Everything is frozen for another 2 months, I just need an investor
Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: buckshotbob on February 08, 2019, 08:03:40 AM
thirty feet of casing until you lock in the bed rock then send your drill down. T he company I used to work for sold the ultralight with my gear trailer down in the states for 8000 . the drill would run around a 100,000 to replace today. Cost effectiveness ,experiment with an old drag behind or skid mount . JK boyles had some nice units out there years ago but they are hard to find now adays.
Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: Norbert77 on February 09, 2019, 09:29:49 AM
A friend of mine owned one of these. He said it paid for itself in 3 years. https://hydracore.com/prospector-usf-020/

96 thousand for the maxhine16,500 for still bits, 10 grand for breakable parts to have on site. Plus taxes.

Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: upnorth on February 09, 2019, 09:51:33 AM
10% off if you buy TWO.
Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: Norbert77 on February 09, 2019, 12:39:05 PM
10% off if you buy TWO.

No word of a lie, I was in Target waiting for my turn so I can get keys to work on their elevators. The old lady in front of me was trying to return 2 pairs of slippers. She had bought 4 pairs because it was buy one get one free, but she only wanted to return the 2 she paid for, not the free ones. This went on for an awfully long time...

So if I buy 10 drills at 10% off I get one free, I can return the 9 I paid for and keep the free one?
Title: Re: New core drill from stihl
Post by: upnorth on February 09, 2019, 01:49:15 PM
Those who drills are sure expensive nowadays, I think my friend paid 50 k for it back in 97. He drilled for 3 years,  summer and winter, then sold it for the same price.